6 days ago   •   51,138 notes   •   VIA: thefallingtower   •   SOURCE: micdotcom
  • hylianears:

    micdotcom:

    Canadian music festival takes huge step against Native appropriation

    Follow micdotcom 

    From their announcement:

    For various reasons, Bass Coast Festival is banning feathered war bonnets, or anything resembling them, onsite. Our security team will be enforcing this policy.

    We understand why people are attracted to war bonnets. They have a magnificent aesthetic. But their spiritual, cultural and aesthetic significance cannot be separated.

    Bass Coast Festival takes place on indigenous land and we respect the dignity of aboriginal people. We have consulted with aboriginal people in British Columbia on this issue and we feel our policy aligns with their views and wishes regarding the subject. Their opinion is what matters to us.

    6 days ago   •   5,305 notes   •   VIA: collaterlysisters   •   SOURCE: backto5oh5
  • collaterlysisters:

    inkdefense:

    femmeanddangerous:

    backto5oh5:

    so if ya’ll haven’t heard, a lot of detroit residents have had their water turned off due to “outstanding bills”, some of $50 dollars or less. It’s gathered a lot of attention (probably bc it’s fucking disgusting) and national corporations like PETA have decided to do something about it!!! by paying off the water bills of detroit residents -who just have to agree to go vegan for a month. i am very angry, obviously, by the fact that WATER has been thrown around like a prize or a privilege in detroit and i’m really sad about this. 

    (if you want to do something to help, you can pay the water bills [or parts of them!] of residents who have been affected by the shut off at detroitwaterproject.org)

    ((also if you know anyone personally who has been affected by the shut off, have the call in 211 hotline to be connected the united way services))

    Dear fucking god this is disgusting. Literally bartering peoples human rights in exchange for adherence to their beliefs is so vile. I’m shaking with anger. How dare they use this flagrant denial of people’s rights as a PUBLICITY STUNT THE FUCKING AUDACITY OF THESE PRIVILEGED SHITBAGS IS OVERWHELMING.
    and here i was hoping that PETA had decided to provide water access so that people can keep their pets alive or something. This is so much more petty and disgusting.

    ewwwwww

    also reminder that PETA doesnt actually give a shit about animals and euthanizes the vast majority of animals within its care, adoptable or not, and are in fact entirely a profit-making front using veganism and animal welfare as a convenient blanket of legitimacy

    1 week ago   •   231 notes
  • I saw your comment about pro israeli or neutral... Tell me one thing though, I'm not trying to start a fight or anything, do you know that Hamas fires rockets each month, even during ceasefires, at Israeli and Palestinian civilians? Now I'm not condoning the killing of children, or anyone for that matter, but do you really think that it is ok for Hamas to target civilians each and every time they fire their rockets into Israel?

    you definitely are trying to start a fight.

    israeli deaths from hamas rockets during the entire history of the conflict, as of 2012: 26 individuals [citation, Modoweiss]

    palestinian casualties in the past ten days: 291 individuals, most of them civilians [citation, Reuters]. update from today, 7/19/14: 342 [citation, SF Gate]

    hamas rockets, which are usually one of the several “qassam” models, are crude projectiles assembled by hand in backyards and garages, aren’t very accurate (although newer models, post-2006, are a little moreso) and while they are capable of killing people (at a success rate of <0.217% [citation: Mondoweiss]), they are in no way comparable to israel and the IDF, which are fed an IV drip of cash and armament from the United States military industrial complex, at a much-touted rate of around 8 million us dollars per day [citation, PolitiFact, skeptical/fact-checking website—considers this an “accurate estimate”].

    firing trash rockets indiscriminately into Israel is definitely a shitty thing to do. it is also not the apocalyptic threat that israel and pro-israel propaganda (most of it headed by evangelical christians in the USA, who have a vested interest in getting Israel squared away so the Rapture can happen. i’m not making this up, although, hilariously, israel’s behavior is starting to alienate even these die-hards) say it is.

    reminder also that the IDF is blithely targeting fleeing children for missile strikes and then justifying it by calling them “human shields”. in front of dozens of international journalists [link contains multiple citations as well as descriptions of child death, warning]. some of the more militant cells in Palestine also claim to target civilians, so any claim of moral superiority by Israel is demonstrably ridiculous. what were these kids “shielding”, exactly? who knows man

    the majority of Palestinian civilians polled in 2013 did not agree with attacking Israel. most in the same poll supported “nonviolent resistance”.

    the majority of Israelis polled in 2014 support a two-state solution, but “almost a quarter are happy to sanction a binational state in which the Palestinians lack full rights.”

    israel is so far up its own ass at this point that far-right Israeli protesters in Tel-Aviv are showing up in white supremacist/nazi t-shirts with stars of david replacing the iron cross motifs [Haaretz]. this particular gang of winners beat up some peace demonstrators, sending one guy to the hospital, before calling it a night.

    that’s not even getting into the Israeli eugenics programs [Forbes]. or the fact that Israel adheres to the legal, technical definition of an apartheid state [LA Times]. but then, so does the United States (Jim Crow, First Nations genocide, and lol if you think this stuff is “over”)

    lmao “self defense”

    3 months ago   •   2,160 notes   •   VIA: collaterlysisters   •   SOURCE: anarcho-queer
  • anarcho-queer:

    Visualizing Occupation: Children Under Israeli Legal Regime

    3 months ago   •   38 notes   •   VIA: antoine-roquentin   •   SOURCE: antoine-roquentin
  • antoine-roquentin:



A synthesis of White Nationalism and Marxism-Leninism “EASPF is essentially a national communist or racial communist organization,” wrote Cupp on a Yahoo! Group message. “I have been to North Korea and am deeply in love with them.”
Cupp wrote that the North Korean Juche ideology supported “biological and cultural distinctiveness” and were “not nihilistic towards the realities of bloodline in the creation of national identities of people the way Western leftists are.”
Sutter sent a message. “We stand in firm solidarity with the Group for the Study of the Theories of Pol Pot and as a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist organization have held steadfast in defense, study, assimilation into party line and, by our work in establishing the Central People’s Commune, advancing toward practical implementation of Pol Potism. Please find as follows some links to photographs taken at the CPC, a place which all who uphold the glorious line of the CPK are most graciously welcome.”
The message contained photographs of the Khmer Rouge flag flying over a vinyl-sided mobile home in a rural setting – the Central People’s Commune of the Rural People’s Party. In photographs published elsewhere, the same trailer and property later show pictures of the North Korean flag and large portraits of Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il on the exterior of the small building.

neo-nazi third positionists are the biggest losers on the face of the planet and the time and money spent by countries like north korea, syria, libya and russia on supporting them as some kind of internal threat to america blows me away

whats the deal with the altar in the last pic it looks like some neo-thuggee stuff with?  a framed photo of a white militant?  and crystal skull vodka??????

    antoine-roquentin:

    A synthesis of White Nationalism and Marxism-Leninism “EASPF is essentially a national communist or racial communist organization,” wrote Cupp on a Yahoo! Group message. “I have been to North Korea and am deeply in love with them.”

    Cupp wrote that the North Korean Juche ideology supported “biological and cultural distinctiveness” and were “not nihilistic towards the realities of bloodline in the creation of national identities of people the way Western leftists are.”

    Sutter sent a message. “We stand in firm solidarity with the Group for the Study of the Theories of Pol Pot and as a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist organization have held steadfast in defense, study, assimilation into party line and, by our work in establishing the Central People’s Commune, advancing toward practical implementation of Pol Potism. Please find as follows some links to photographs taken at the CPC, a place which all who uphold the glorious line of the CPK are most graciously welcome.”

    The message contained photographs of the Khmer Rouge flag flying over a vinyl-sided mobile home in a rural setting – the Central People’s Commune of the Rural People’s Party. In photographs published elsewhere, the same trailer and property later show pictures of the North Korean flag and large portraits of Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il on the exterior of the small building.

    neo-nazi third positionists are the biggest losers on the face of the planet and the time and money spent by countries like north korea, syria, libya and russia on supporting them as some kind of internal threat to america blows me away

    whats the deal with the altar in the last pic it looks like some neo-thuggee stuff with?  a framed photo of a white militant?  and crystal skull vodka??????

    4 months ago   •   430 notes   •   VIA: 3liza   •   SOURCE: corvidblog
  • 3liza:

    corvidblog:

    3liza:

    corvidblog:

    It’s nesting season for crows in NY and how is The Rip Van Winkle Rod & Gun Club celebrating? Crow hunting contest!

    This contest is happening literally 3 days before the end of the legal season (March 31). NO bag limit, and toxic shot is allowed. So even if you don’t like crows, this means any injured, but surviving crows later taken by hawks, owls, and other predators (including pets) risk poisoning as well.

    These contests still happen, not just in NY, but all over the country. The photos of the dead crows are from a hunt in Texas.

    This is NOT responsible hunting. Please note that most hunters do not approve of or endorse these contests!  Hunters have just as much reason to protest these killing contests as anyone else.

    cant help but notice these spongeheaded hillbillies have included their phone numbers and names at the bottom of this flyer.  play safe kids; use tor for all your free faxes and google voice calls!

    John Raffiani
    Suck’em Up Vacuum
    1114 State Route 81
    Climax, New York 12042
    (518) 731-1952

    Shorty or Tig
    Shorty’s Body Shop
    1462 Palenville Road
    Palenville, NY 12463
    (518) 678-9227

    Bruce
    Pipes Plus (gosh, this website doesnt look very secure!!)
    4620 Rte 32
    Catskill, NY 12414
    (518) 678-9356
    (518) 678-0252
    pipesplusllc@verizon.net

    also, crows are not listed as a species that is permitted for hunting by the Department of Environment Conservation: http://www.dec.ny.gov/permits/95492.html Here is the general dispatch number: DEC Dispatch Center at 1-877-457-5680

    EDIT 1: the Rip van Winkle Gun Club is on Facebook, so go to town: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rip-Van-Winkle-Rod-and-Gun-Club/290925652663?rf=102268666500126

    EDIT 2: the president of the RVW Gun Club is:

    Vincent P. Maiuri (Vincent Maiuri) (age 49)

    Phone: 518-678-9728

    Cell: 518-225-6435 (verizon)
    email: RVW@hvc.rr.com 

    While I understand the anger and frustration (trust me, I see the dead bodies of my study animals every year), I would like to note that harassment of the organizers is probably not the best route to ending things like this.  Often times it just adds fuel to the fire.

    [snip]

    yeah youre probably right.  im sure just sending them some softly-worded pamphlets and then asking them nicely to “reconsider their position” will be incredibly effective on people whose event logo is literally a drawing of a weeping crow mourning a dead familymember. probably all we have to do is forward them some links to cute youtube videos of crows using tools and communicating and they’ll call the whole thing off

    thanks for your advice about your approved methods of protest action!

    update on this: the RVW Rod & Gun Club deleted the Crow Down post from their Facebook page this morning, as well as their Reviews section, which was filling up with one-star reviews from people angry about the event. There’s no announcement that it’s been canceled, but “Crow Down” is no longer listed in their Events section, and they are certainly running damage control—and that’s not nothing. Whatever you’ve been doing, keep it up!

    Vincent Maiuri, president of the Rip Van Winkle Rod and Gun Club, can be reached at his publicly-listed numbers, posted on this RVW Club flyer on their facebook page:

    Vincent P. Maiuri (Vincent Maiuri) (age 49)

    Phone: 518-678-9728

    Cell: 518-225-6435 (verizon)
    email: RVW@hvc.rr.com 

    5 months ago   •   64 notes   •   VIA: ghostbongweedofthesamurai   •   SOURCE: 3liza
  • ghostbongweedofthesamurai:

    3liza:

    and i guess in light of the completely unsurprising defection of Justine Tunney, it’s important to acknowledge that Occupy didn’t have a fucking bodyguard unit, an that attempts to form one were met with howls of indignation by the babies that considered themselves Occupy’s “leaders”.  our bodyguard unit was actually the Black Bloc, which is a tactic and not a group of people, who were vilified and ostracized even as they were trying to shield “nonviolent” liberal schweens from rubber bullets and gas grenades.  i watched a young white man at a protest try to physically capture and turn in a person he considered “black bloc” to the actual police.

    can you fucking imagine the suffragettes doing the same, on the scale that the “nonviolent” dorks did at Occupy?  i’m sure it happened, and of course there were disagreements about tactics, but the Bodyguard were appreciated and recognized as necessary human shields, something it seems was impossible for zucotti weenies

    pacifist hippie, holding a rock, having to be restrained from braining a dude in black “because he’s going to be violent”

    5 months ago   •   19 notes
  • a tattoo of deuce’s “outrage” pose with a molotov cocktail in one fist and a baseball bat in the other, and a tear gas canister at his feet, and the banners above and below say

    IT IS THE ONLY WAY

    THE POO WILL LEARN~

    5 months ago   •   64 notes
  • and i guess in light of the completely unsurprising defection of Justine Tunney, it’s important to acknowledge that Occupy didn’t have a fucking bodyguard unit, an that attempts to form one were met with howls of indignation by the babies that considered themselves Occupy’s “leaders”.  our bodyguard unit was actually the Black Bloc, which is a tactic and not a group of people, who were vilified and ostracized even as they were trying to shield “nonviolent” liberal schweens from rubber bullets and gas grenades.  i watched a young white man at a protest try to physically capture and turn in a person he considered “black bloc” to the actual police.

    can you fucking imagine the suffragettes doing the same, on the scale that the “nonviolent” dorks did at Occupy?  i’m sure it happened, and of course there were disagreements about tactics, but the Bodyguard were appreciated and recognized as necessary human shields, something it seems was impossible for zucotti weenies

    5 months ago   •   261 notes
  • eva reblogged one of my posts recently about how &#8220;nonviolence&#8221; and &#8220;pacifism&#8221; is sort of a made-up idea wrt how it&#8217;s applied to the hero characters in narratives about how to effectively oppose oppression, and it&#8217;s been fascinating watching it get bounced around with various comments appended.  the people who are furious at me for saying the suffragettes punched cops, broke windows and built bombs, and that the poop should be scared, as in, frightened for its physical safety.  that this is how shit gets done.  the civil rights movement, women&#8217;s suffrage, and gandhi all had armies backing them up, people who were willing and able to engage in (mostly, but not entirely) defensive violence, a fact which is &#8220;curiously&#8221; overlooked in modern american public school texts.  so you get these mostly very young, mostly very white people, having graduated high school just stuffed to the gills with the twinkly idea of &#8220;no resistance but nonviolent resistance&#8221; and how &#8220;effective&#8221; it is, and how all political action must somehow be boneless or else not morally pure, just horrified at the completely historical idea that the ruling class really has no incentive to bend to public will unless they&#8217;re staring down the barrel of a literal or metaphorical gun.
what&#8217;s extra weird is that they somehow manage to maintain this concept even after running through the approved curriculum on the American Revolution from the hated British Oppressors (won by candle vigils, signature-gathering, and office sit-ins, no doubt), and the American Civil War, where the popular public school rhetoric (at least in the liberal northern enclaves where i got my public schooling) goes something like, &#8220;we punched a bunch of Dixie freaks until they stopped being racist&#8221;.  Again, not a lot of pacifism involved.  But somehow these conflicts are considered &#8220;different&#8221;.  
You&#8217;re allowed to learn certain versions of historical events, but not to apply them to modernity or your own life.  Confronted with the question of whether the Boston Tea Party (an event every american schoolchild is familiar with) was automatically invalid as a political action because it involved that most forbidden of transgressions: the Destruction of Government/Private Property, no 10th grader will say yes.  which is odd, because they&#8217;ll be shocked if someone tells them the Suffragettes had a hand-to-hand combat unit specifically to punch cops who tried to attack marchers and protestors who, you will learn in those articles, had no problem breaking windows.
and then a gang of queers, non-whites, and other at-risk people are in the notes too, making the weary but necessary counter-arguments, most of which are rooted in the reality of being physically and politically exploited by the police, and everyone else.  just looking into the race/class/sexuality/gender/life experience cohorts of each side probably tells you most of what you need to know about the veracity of each position.

    eva reblogged one of my posts recently about how “nonviolence” and “pacifism” is sort of a made-up idea wrt how it’s applied to the hero characters in narratives about how to effectively oppose oppression, and it’s been fascinating watching it get bounced around with various comments appended.  the people who are furious at me for saying the suffragettes punched cops, broke windows and built bombs, and that the poop should be scared, as in, frightened for its physical safety.  that this is how shit gets done.  the civil rights movement, women’s suffrage, and gandhi all had armies backing them up, people who were willing and able to engage in (mostly, but not entirely) defensive violence, a fact which is “curiously” overlooked in modern american public school texts.  so you get these mostly very young, mostly very white people, having graduated high school just stuffed to the gills with the twinkly idea of “no resistance but nonviolent resistance” and how “effective” it is, and how all political action must somehow be boneless or else not morally pure, just horrified at the completely historical idea that the ruling class really has no incentive to bend to public will unless they’re staring down the barrel of a literal or metaphorical gun.

    what’s extra weird is that they somehow manage to maintain this concept even after running through the approved curriculum on the American Revolution from the hated British Oppressors (won by candle vigils, signature-gathering, and office sit-ins, no doubt), and the American Civil War, where the popular public school rhetoric (at least in the liberal northern enclaves where i got my public schooling) goes something like, “we punched a bunch of Dixie freaks until they stopped being racist”.  Again, not a lot of pacifism involved.  But somehow these conflicts are considered “different”.  

    You’re allowed to learn certain versions of historical events, but not to apply them to modernity or your own life.  Confronted with the question of whether the Boston Tea Party (an event every american schoolchild is familiar with) was automatically invalid as a political action because it involved that most forbidden of transgressions: the Destruction of Government/Private Property, no 10th grader will say yes.  which is odd, because they’ll be shocked if someone tells them the Suffragettes had a hand-to-hand combat unit specifically to punch cops who tried to attack marchers and protestors who, you will learn in those articles, had no problem breaking windows.

    and then a gang of queers, non-whites, and other at-risk people are in the notes too, making the weary but necessary counter-arguments, most of which are rooted in the reality of being physically and politically exploited by the police, and everyone else.  just looking into the race/class/sexuality/gender/life experience cohorts of each side probably tells you most of what you need to know about the veracity of each position.

    shikajika:

    Eliza, I’ve taken in all the info on your reblogs and, as I said before, I’m taking all of this info seriously and making sure to keep looking into it waaaaay after tonight so, again, thanks for all the links and info because they are helpful (no sarcasm or anything here; I think this is all genuinely important information)

    but, I’m not doing anymore reblogging of that post right now mainly because I keep saying "I don’t approve of police brutality/that level of action and force over something so insignificant" and you have told me that apparently I do two or three times now so it seems kind of pointless saying it again.

    okay i feel you on this and i understand what you’re saying but here’s the thing: approving of the police at all, any form of surveillance, and any actions taken by the government to “fight the war on terror” IS approving of that level of force, and of brutality, and of war crimes. because the two are not separate issues. there is no war on terror without police brutality, there is no surveillance without misuse of data to put innocent people in prison, there is no panopticon without abuse. ok? we cant just cherrypick the parts of the police state that happen to not inconvenience you at this particular moment and stamp them “approved”. it doesn’t affect me in the slightest that homelessness and transgenderism is pathologized and criminalized, right, because im cis-passing and privileged to have somewhere to live. but the oppression of these stated groups is PART OF and a key component/result of the larger problems. i can’t and won’t say “well just stop lynching transwomen and clubbing the homeless and we’ll have a perfectly acceptable government.” it’s symptomatic and supportive of the larger issue. we dont get to pick and choose!

    1 year ago   •   246 notes   •   VIA: stationlost   •   SOURCE: 3liza
  • ghostbongweedofthesamurai:

3liza:

i mean GOD FORBID your fucking government should criminalize something you do or just “are&#8221; (anyone here a sodomite? no? raise your hands if you’re gay. guess what’s still criminalized in a lot of these united states, and what can put you in fucking prison if seen on security camera footage that is then used in court against you. guess.) and use universal surveillance to hunt you down and incarcerate, injure or kill you, or maybe even do that without the comfy bolster of criminal law, but maybe just for fun because cops are psychotic
[cut]

hello op, you have said some ignorant and dangerous shit and you must atone.
ever since the advent of the PATRIOT act (october 2001) there has been a fairly steady stream of whistleblowers from government agencies (none of whom are v for vendetta teens, you turd) coming out and saying basically the exact same thing: the US government is intercepting and archiving everything you say or do in whatever capacity they can, for the purposes of building profiles on you and everyone you communicate with.
maybe, right this second, you’re not concerned about the secret rubber-stamp FISA court giving the government carte blanche to save your (yes, yours, because you’re a “potential terrorist&#8221;) skype chats in an NSA database somewhere. i mean, who cares, right? only criminals and teens with delusions of grandeur would give a shit about that sort of thing. maybe it doesn’t bother you that the information gathered is shared extensively among both government agencies and private corporations for the purposes of mapping out your entire life.
but why should you be concerned? why are they doing this?  because the US has made it clear in the last ten years that it views everyone (EVERYONE) as a potential terrorist who should be investigated. they want everything they can get from you in case you become inconvenient tomorrow, or next year, or twenty years from now. that way, they can just go back into the archives and read everything you’ve ever said, everywhere you’ve ever gone, anyone you’ve ever associated with.
THIS is why it’s important to figure out that you went to subway (or a mosque, or planned parenthood, or the shooting range). the individual act is not important, but its place in your larger digital shadow is. you don’t know what the country is going to be like in ten years. maybe you went to a protest in 2011 and had your facial imprint caught on a surveillance camera. maybe they think that’s enough now, in this year of our shitty cyberpunk future 2024.
eliza already mentioned the seattle grand jury resistors and how they were put in prison for months not because they committed any crimes, but because they had been profiled as possibly tangentially connected to people who had possibly done some political vandalism (for which they were also not charged or convicted). these people don’t operate on rules of law or logic or morals. they don’t give a shit that you’re not doing anything right now or that you think you have nothing to hide. these people are laughing all the way to the bank, because they know that if you ever even think about stepping out of line they’ll have enough to put you away.
maybe if you don’t live in the US you’re not worried about this stuff. well, surprise, it’s even worse overseas. the UK government was just caught tapping and archiving every fiber connection out of the country, then going on to share that information with american intelligence agencies. even when the US government isn’t getting permission from a sovereign nation to tap their citizens’ communications, they get around it by either hacking their way in wherever they can, or by just intercepting the data when it flows through american infrastructure (as much of the internet does, regardless of origin or destination).
further reading on the subject should probably begin with the Guardian’s NSA files, an overview of the last couple weeks of leaks. from there, keep doing research and stop saying dumb shit about what people should and should not be concerned about vis a vis their personal privacy and safety.

yeah

    ghostbongweedofthesamurai:

    3liza:

    i mean GOD FORBID your fucking government should criminalize something you do or just “are” (anyone here a sodomite? no? raise your hands if you’re gay. guess what’s still criminalized in a lot of these united states, and what can put you in fucking prison if seen on security camera footage that is then used in court against you. guess.) and use universal surveillance to hunt you down and incarcerate, injure or kill you, or maybe even do that without the comfy bolster of criminal law, but maybe just for fun because cops are psychotic

    [cut]

    hello op, you have said some ignorant and dangerous shit and you must atone.

    ever since the advent of the PATRIOT act (october 2001) there has been a fairly steady stream of whistleblowers from government agencies (none of whom are v for vendetta teens, you turd) coming out and saying basically the exact same thing: the US government is intercepting and archiving everything you say or do in whatever capacity they can, for the purposes of building profiles on you and everyone you communicate with.

    maybe, right this second, you’re not concerned about the secret rubber-stamp FISA court giving the government carte blanche to save your (yes, yours, because you’re a “potential terrorist”) skype chats in an NSA database somewhere. i mean, who cares, right? only criminals and teens with delusions of grandeur would give a shit about that sort of thing. maybe it doesn’t bother you that the information gathered is shared extensively among both government agencies and private corporations for the purposes of mapping out your entire life.

    but why should you be concerned? why are they doing this?  because the US has made it clear in the last ten years that it views everyone (EVERYONE) as a potential terrorist who should be investigated. they want everything they can get from you in case you become inconvenient tomorrow, or next year, or twenty years from now. that way, they can just go back into the archives and read everything you’ve ever said, everywhere you’ve ever gone, anyone you’ve ever associated with.

    THIS is why it’s important to figure out that you went to subway (or a mosque, or planned parenthood, or the shooting range). the individual act is not important, but its place in your larger digital shadow is. you don’t know what the country is going to be like in ten years. maybe you went to a protest in 2011 and had your facial imprint caught on a surveillance camera. maybe they think that’s enough now, in this year of our shitty cyberpunk future 2024.

    eliza already mentioned the seattle grand jury resistors and how they were put in prison for months not because they committed any crimes, but because they had been profiled as possibly tangentially connected to people who had possibly done some political vandalism (for which they were also not charged or convicted). these people don’t operate on rules of law or logic or morals. they don’t give a shit that you’re not doing anything right now or that you think you have nothing to hide. these people are laughing all the way to the bank, because they know that if you ever even think about stepping out of line they’ll have enough to put you away.


    maybe if you don’t live in the US you’re not worried about this stuff. well, surprise, it’s even worse overseas. the UK government was just caught tapping and archiving every fiber connection out of the country, then going on to share that information with american intelligence agencies. even when the US government isn’t getting permission from a sovereign nation to tap their citizens’ communications, they get around it by either hacking their way in wherever they can, or by just intercepting the data when it flows through american infrastructure (as much of the internet does, regardless of origin or destination).

    further reading on the subject should probably begin with the Guardian’s NSA files, an overview of the last couple weeks of leaks. from there, keep doing research and stop saying dumb shit about what people should and should not be concerned about vis a vis their personal privacy and safety.

    yeah

    1 year ago   •   246 notes   •   VIA: shriekajika-deactivated20140402   •   SOURCE: 3liza
  • shikajika:

3liza:

shikajika:

3liza:

i mean GOD FORBID your fucking government should criminalize something you do or just “are&#8221; (anyone here a sodomite? [&#8230;]

Didn’t know anything about what you brought up i[&#8230;]

you are literally telling me that you want the police to knock on your door an interrogate you for making a joke. [&#8230;]

I said it would be a reason to investigate it - e.g. keep a record of the chat maybe or see if they had said it multiple times elsewhere - take the time to assess the person to see if they are a real threat or not (and if not, leave them alone), not take that kind of ludicrous action straight off the bat. Even if they do seem to be a threat, there’s plenty of other ways to go about dealing with that kind of issue and I am in no way supporting the decisions made in that case because, like I already said, they’re terrible.And of course I don’t support peoples’ arrest based on their ethnicity, beliefs or sexuality - at what point did I agree with that kind of behaviour? All I said regarding those things was that I had never personally witnessed them and, as a result, I don’t consider them a high threat where I currently live. I’m not saying that those things never happen elsewhere in the world or even in areas near/close to me - all I said was that I’ve never seen it happen in front of me/to me. I am treating what you are saying seriously and I’m taking in information I wasn’t previously aware of because I think it is important- I’m thankful for that, but I’d rather you not insinuate that I am showing support for bigoted mistreatment.


busting down someone&#8217;s door and dragging them off to be interrogated or putting them under unjust surveillance because they said &#8220;fuck the police&#8221; in a chatroom is not reasonable in any way, shape or form. because &#8220;safety&#8221;.  that&#8217;s your argument.  it is totally indefensible, and you are still asserting bizarrely that the government surveillance and punishment body is CAPABLE of making a judgment call about whether or not someone posting in the #kill cops tag is a threat to national security. here&#8217;s the first guy who was convicted(sorry typing too fast) indicted under the Patriot Act btw:

Sami Omar al-Hussayen, a Saudi graduate student in Idaho, was reportedly the first person to be indicted under the USA Patriot Act, which expanded the notion of “material support” for terrorism to include those who render “expert advice or assistance” to the terrorists and their cause. The feds alleged that al-Hussayen, in his role as Webmaster for a Muslim charity website, was providing such assistance. The charity sites focused on normal religious training, but the indictment asserted that if a user followed enough links off his site, he would find violent, anti-American comments on other sites. Such was the elasticity provided by Patriot Act provisions. A properly instructed jury acquitted, but the set of anti-terrorism laws leave little reason to believe that prosecutors will not infringe on important civil liberties in their pursuit of terrorist suspects, as indeed they have in various parts of the nation. In fact, an upcoming Supreme Court case—Holder v. Humanitarian Law Project –challenges the vagueness of this federal statute.

every single member of the governing body involved in prosecuting this webmaster from the lawyers to the judge to the arresting officers thought it was reasonable and that they were using their best judgment.  just fyi.  these are the people you believe are capable of making decisions about who is and is not &#8220;a threat to the wellbeing of others&#8221;. 

    shikajika:

    3liza:

    shikajika:

    3liza:

    i mean GOD FORBID your fucking government should criminalize something you do or just “are” (anyone here a sodomite? […]

    Didn’t know anything about what you brought up i[…]

    you are literally telling me that you want the police to knock on your door an interrogate you for making a joke. […]

    I said it would be a reason to investigate it - e.g. keep a record of the chat maybe or see if they had said it multiple times elsewhere - take the time to assess the person to see if they are a real threat or not (and if not, leave them alone), not take that kind of ludicrous action straight off the bat. Even if they do seem to be a threat, there’s plenty of other ways to go about dealing with that kind of issue and I am in no way supporting the decisions made in that case because, like I already said, they’re terrible.

    And of course I don’t support peoples’ arrest based on their ethnicity, beliefs or sexuality - at what point did I agree with that kind of behaviour? All I said regarding those things was that I had never personally witnessed them and, as a result, I don’t consider them a high threat where I currently live.

    I’m not saying that those things never happen elsewhere in the world or even in areas near/close to me - all I said was that I’ve never seen it happen in front of me/to me. I am treating what you are saying seriously and I’m taking in information I wasn’t previously aware of because I think it is important- I’m thankful for that, but I’d rather you not insinuate that I am showing support for bigoted mistreatment.

    busting down someone’s door and dragging them off to be interrogated or putting them under unjust surveillance because they said “fuck the police” in a chatroom is not reasonable in any way, shape or form. because “safety”.  that’s your argument.  it is totally indefensible, and you are still asserting bizarrely that the government surveillance and punishment body is CAPABLE of making a judgment call about whether or not someone posting in the #kill cops tag is a threat to national security. here’s the first guy who was convicted(sorry typing too fast) indicted under the Patriot Act btw:

    Sami Omar al-Hussayen, a Saudi graduate student in Idaho, was reportedly the first person to be indicted under the USA Patriot Act, which expanded the notion of “material support” for terrorism to include those who render “expert advice or assistance” to the terrorists and their cause. The feds alleged that al-Hussayen, in his role as Webmaster for a Muslim charity website, was providing such assistance. The charity sites focused on normal religious training, but the indictment asserted that if a user followed enough links off his site, he would find violent, anti-American comments on other sites. Such was the elasticity provided by Patriot Act provisions. A properly instructed jury acquitted, but the set of anti-terrorism laws leave little reason to believe that prosecutors will not infringe on important civil liberties in their pursuit of terrorist suspects, as indeed they have in various parts of the nation. In fact, an upcoming Supreme Court case—Holder v. Humanitarian Law Project –challenges the vagueness of this federal statute.

    every single member of the governing body involved in prosecuting this webmaster from the lawyers to the judge to the arresting officers thought it was reasonable and that they were using their best judgment.  just fyi.  these are the people you believe are capable of making decisions about who is and is not “a threat to the wellbeing of others”. 

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  • shikajika:

3liza:

i mean GOD FORBID your fucking government should criminalize something you do or just “are&#8221; (anyone here a sodomite? no? raise your hands if you’re gay. guess what’s still criminalized in a lot of these united states, and what can put you in fucking prison if seen on security camera footage that is then used in court against you. guess.) and use universal surveillance to hunt you down and incarcerate, injure or kill you, or maybe even do that without the comfy bolster of criminal law, but maybe just for fun because cops are psychotic
edit: sodomy laws were “struck down&#8221; in 2003 but the police didn’t get the memo.  the police will still beat you into jelly for being a poof and the police still think sodomy is illegal.
more than a dozen states still have sodomy laws on the books which can be used to arrest and incarcerate the accused, if only temporarily. that is, if you are seen being a sodomite.
"if you aren’t doing anythign wrong you have nothing to fear" is a completely specious argument because you have no idea, unless you are literally the walking anthropomorphic manifest of the complete US (or in your case, British) criminal code if anything you are doing right now is an arrestable or punishable offense.  wearing or buying bootleg designer clothing? violating copyright in any way, shape or form? jaywalking, maybe even just on a technicality? car not 100% up to code in some obscure way? salvaging furniture, food, or other usable refuse from the roadside or a dumpster (theft), maybe because you’re homeless (loitering, trespassing)? 
the average american commits three felonies per day without realizing it. any one of which will put you in prison, potentially forever, but only when they see you doing it and decide to incarcerate you.  privacy is PROTECTION from unjust, unreasonable laws, as well as illegal persecution by police and government agencies.
1. they don’t care if what youre doing on that footage is “wrong&#8221; or not.
2. they don’t care if what you’re doing on that footage is “illegal&#8221; or not
3. they care about being able to find you, follow you, and potentially arrest or disable you in case they have a reason to do so.
reasons which you won’t care about until you get into a tinychat with someone who’s under investigation by the FBI, and you make a joke about blowing up a police car, and end up interrogated for three months without access to counsel (all “legal&#8221;). which is quite similar to what is happening to a number of Grand Jury Resisters around the country right now, notably in seattle.  the seattle grand jury resisters had not committed any crime whatsoever, and had not even been present at the event they were being questioned about.  some of them ended up in solitary confinement for months and months, again, without being charged with a crime, and without being proven to have committed a crime.  
for the love of god, EDUCATE YOURSELF. “im not doing anything wrong&#8221; is not even remotely the point, kids. it’s meaningless to the topic at hand, and unless you genuinely believe the entire government, every single person in power from the president/prime minister down to the DMV desk workers has Your Best Interests At Heart and WOuld Never Do Anything Bad To Me Unless I Deserved it, you should be worried about universal surveillance.  especially if you are anything other than a heterosexual, cis, white, conservative taxpayer.

Didn’t know anything about what you brought up in the first two paragraphs so thanks for that; that’s fucking ridiculous. Also thanks for the links because they help a lot.I still partially stick by some of the things I brought up in my other posts, because to be honest I haven’t ever seen anybody I’ve even been mildly associated with do time for anything, regardless of the crime’s severity, regardless of whether that person’s sexuality, gender or ethnicity was, but maybe I’m lucky in not being in such a biased environment - who knows. Either way it’s good to be aware of the possibilities in that regard.Re: the ‘joke about blowing up a police car in a tinychat’ - sorry but, yeah, I actually think it would be entirely reasonable to investigate that if it came up. Not to put that person in jail, obviously, but if I was working in law enforcement (which I very, very much doubt I ever will), I wouldn’t want to gloss that over and move on. Even if it’s just a frivolous exchange, it’s still a potential threat to others’ wellbeing. But you’re definitely right in saying that the person who did that shouldn’t be kept detained or be given a sentence without evidence further than that.But yea, thanks for the reply - even if I’m not 100% on all that’s being said at the moment (again, personal experience which suggests that its a different situation where I live), it’s at least stuff I’m going to look into and take onboard.


you are literally telling me that you want the police to knock on your door an interrogate you for making a joke. you just said that without irony. holy fucking shit. how about for being a muslim or sucking dick or wearing a shirt that says &#8220;anarchy in the UK&#8221; or maybe tagging a post &#8220;#fuck the police&#8221;? good reasons for having the fuzz batter your door down at 4am, shoot your dog because it &#8220;presented a threat to an officer&#8221;, take you to jail and slam you into an interrogation room for hours? how about months? 5 months of solitary confinement sound good? after all, it&#8217;s all for the protection of &#8220;others&#8217; wellbeing&#8221;.

    shikajika:

    3liza:

    i mean GOD FORBID your fucking government should criminalize something you do or just “are” (anyone here a sodomite? no? raise your hands if you’re gay. guess what’s still criminalized in a lot of these united states, and what can put you in fucking prison if seen on security camera footage that is then used in court against you. guess.) and use universal surveillance to hunt you down and incarcerate, injure or kill you, or maybe even do that without the comfy bolster of criminal law, but maybe just for fun because cops are psychotic

    edit: sodomy laws were “struck down” in 2003 but the police didn’t get the memo.  the police will still beat you into jelly for being a poof and the police still think sodomy is illegal.

    more than a dozen states still have sodomy laws on the books which can be used to arrest and incarcerate the accused, if only temporarily. that is, if you are seen being a sodomite.

    "if you aren’t doing anythign wrong you have nothing to fear" is a completely specious argument because you have no idea, unless you are literally the walking anthropomorphic manifest of the complete US (or in your case, British) criminal code if anything you are doing right now is an arrestable or punishable offense.  wearing or buying bootleg designer clothing? violating copyright in any way, shape or form? jaywalking, maybe even just on a technicality? car not 100% up to code in some obscure way? salvaging furniture, food, or other usable refuse from the roadside or a dumpster (theft), maybe because you’re homeless (loitering, trespassing)? 

    the average american commits three felonies per day without realizing it. any one of which will put you in prison, potentially forever, but only when they see you doing it and decide to incarcerate you.  privacy is PROTECTION from unjust, unreasonable laws, as well as illegal persecution by police and government agencies.

    1. they don’t care if what youre doing on that footage is “wrong” or not.

    2. they don’t care if what you’re doing on that footage is “illegal” or not

    3. they care about being able to find you, follow you, and potentially arrest or disable you in case they have a reason to do so.

    reasons which you won’t care about until you get into a tinychat with someone who’s under investigation by the FBI, and you make a joke about blowing up a police car, and end up interrogated for three months without access to counsel (all “legal”). which is quite similar to what is happening to a number of Grand Jury Resisters around the country right now, notably in seattle.  the seattle grand jury resisters had not committed any crime whatsoever, and had not even been present at the event they were being questioned about.  some of them ended up in solitary confinement for months and months, again, without being charged with a crime, and without being proven to have committed a crime.  

    for the love of god, EDUCATE YOURSELF. “im not doing anything wrong” is not even remotely the point, kids. it’s meaningless to the topic at hand, and unless you genuinely believe the entire government, every single person in power from the president/prime minister down to the DMV desk workers has Your Best Interests At Heart and WOuld Never Do Anything Bad To Me Unless I Deserved it, you should be worried about universal surveillance.  especially if you are anything other than a heterosexual, cis, white, conservative taxpayer.

    Didn’t know anything about what you brought up in the first two paragraphs so thanks for that; that’s fucking ridiculous. Also thanks for the links because they help a lot.

    I still partially stick by some of the things I brought up in my other posts, because to be honest I haven’t ever seen anybody I’ve even been mildly associated with do time for anything, regardless of the crime’s severity, regardless of whether that person’s sexuality, gender or ethnicity was, but maybe I’m lucky in not being in such a biased environment - who knows. Either way it’s good to be aware of the possibilities in that regard.

    Re: the ‘joke about blowing up a police car in a tinychat’ - sorry but, yeah, I actually think it would be entirely reasonable to investigate that if it came up. Not to put that person in jail, obviously, but if I was working in law enforcement (which I very, very much doubt I ever will), I wouldn’t want to gloss that over and move on. Even if it’s just a frivolous exchange, it’s still a potential threat to others’ wellbeing. But you’re definitely right in saying that the person who did that shouldn’t be kept detained or be given a sentence without evidence further than that.

    But yea, thanks for the reply - even if I’m not 100% on all that’s being said at the moment (again, personal experience which suggests that its a different situation where I live), it’s at least stuff I’m going to look into and take onboard.

    you are literally telling me that you want the police to knock on your door an interrogate you for making a joke. you just said that without irony. holy fucking shit. how about for being a muslim or sucking dick or wearing a shirt that says “anarchy in the UK” or maybe tagging a post “#fuck the police”? good reasons for having the fuzz batter your door down at 4am, shoot your dog because it “presented a threat to an officer”, take you to jail and slam you into an interrogation room for hours? how about months? 5 months of solitary confinement sound good? after all, it’s all for the protection of “others’ wellbeing”.

    shikajika:

    is that law saying that illustrated images of bestiality*/loli/shota = illegal still real because that is soooooo fucking absurd, like to the degree where its literally just angry confused people clasping at straws

    *never saw that one officially covered anywhere but I heard it talked about quite a bit

    http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/d_to_g/extreme_pornography/#an02 

    Sections 63 to 67 of the Act make it an offence to possess pornographic images that depict acts which threaten a person’s life; acts which result in or are likely to result in serious injury to a person’s anus, breasts or genitals; bestiality; or necrophilia. They also provide for the exclusion of classified films etc. and set out defences and the penalties for the offence.

    so yes if you think a 60 year old white heterosexual man wearing a mop on his head could possibly decide that the FurAffinity vore tag is “obscene” (hint: he can and probably would decide that) then guess what you will go to prison for it if it is convenient for them to send you there.  these dipshit subjective tests like “is it obscene” or “is it realistic” are tools that the legal system uses to decide, independent of actual objective reality, who goes to prison, when, for how long, and why.

    for example let’s say you get arrested at a peaceful protest against austerity. you have your ipad with you. even though you closed your safari tab before coming, a safari tab that was open to a vore/gore image on FurAffinity, wiretapping laws allow them to check the data records of your 3gs account, to see everything you’ve done and everything you’ve downloaded, uploaded, etc.  you did not encrypt this data with tor or route it through a VPN because, hey, you weren’t doing anything wrong.

    you are wearing all black clothes at the time of your arrest, because you are stylish as shit.  but they think you’re “black bloc”.  they decide you’re an anarchist, want to make an example of you, and use obscenity laws and their surveillance of your internet activity to fine or imprison you because “anarchism” isn’t technically criminalized yet but you sure as shit are doing SOMETHING wrong, so they’ll use it against you to get what they want: you in prison, you fined, you traumatized by arrest, all of which will discourage you from protesting ever again, and will discourage others because now you’re an example. 

    if the judge feels like putting you in prison, he will use every tool he has at hand to do so.  and if that means deciding subjectively that the furry shota gore illustration on your ipad is a “realistic” portrayal of “bestiality” that “causes injury to the anus” of a “minor”, he can and will.

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